Season 6, Episode 1

The other side of Scarborough’s Rope, with Margaret Goldberg

In our kick-off episode for season six, host Susan Lambert is joined by podcast alum Margaret Goldberg, the co-founder of the Right to Read Project.  They discuss the new, animated Science of Reading series Brain Builders, and how this free tool can be shared directly with students and their caregivers. Importantly, Margaret also elevates the need to focus on the comprehension strand of the Science of Reading.

Meet our guest(s):

Margaret Goldberg

Margaret Goldberg is a literacy coach in a large urban district in California. She’s held a variety of roles including district early literacy lead, site-based literacy coach, reading interventionist, and classroom teacher. In every role, she’s worked to help schools and districts align instruction with reading research. She is the co-founder of the Right to Read Project and her writing is published on The Right to Read Project blog and Reading Rockets.

Meet our host, Susan Lambert

Susan Lambert is the Chief Academic Officer of Elementary Humanities at Amplify, and the host of Science of Reading: The Podcast. Her career has been focused on creating high-quality learning environments using evidence-based practices. Susan is a mom of four, a grandma of four, a world traveler, and a collector of stories.

As the host of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan explores the increasing body of scientific research around how reading is best taught. As a former classroom teacher, administrator, and curriculum developer, Susan is dedicated to turning theory into best practices that educators can put right to use in the classroom, and to showcasing national models of reading instruction excellence.


“When was the last time in education anybody heard of de-implementation? All we do is pile one thing on top of another, on top of another...then we wonder why it didn't work.” —Margaret Goldberg
“You have to distinguish between an initiative, something that is new, and culture, something that's part of what we do every day and that is embedded. That is more important.” —Margaret Goldberg
“The problem is this. If you only look at the results, then you don't know what caused it. Somebody has to look at underlying causes.” —Margaret Goldberg
“It's really important for administrators to say, 'Hey, I can deal with some chaos. I can deal with students making mistakes.' That's real learning.” —Margaret Goldberg

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