Math Miniseries, Episode 2

Helping students “not hate” math, starring Ian Brown

In the second part of our special Beyond My Years two-part math series, Ana is joined by Ian Brown, second-grade teacher at Mukilteo School District in Washington, and author of the comic book I Hate Math, for a conversation focused on reducing math anxiety and creating positive math experiences. Ian shares his approach to helping students who genuinely dislike math, describing how he helps them get to a place where math success feels manageable and achievable. Together, Ian and Ana explore the power of honoring students' real feelings; creating classroom environments where mistakes don't carry shame; and using storytelling, humor, and metaphors to make abstract concepts concrete. Finally, Ana is joined by Classroom Insider Eric Cross to discuss making math feel safe, ways to give students both story and stage, and how the foundational work of differentiation and meeting students where they are is critical to the work of educators.

Meet Our Guest(s):

A man with short brown hair and a full reddish-brown beard, wearing a brown button-up shirt, smiles in front of a light-colored wall—capturing the friendly spirit of a dedicated math teacher.

Ian Brown

Ian is a second-grade classroom teacher in Everett, Washington and the author of the comic book I Hate Math. He lives with his wife and three kids. In his spare time, he enjoys drawing comics and rooting for the Indiana Pacers.

Meet our host, Ana Torres.

Ana has been an educator for 30 years, working in both the K–8 and higher education sectors. She served as an administrator and instructor at various public and private colleges and universities and as a bilingual and dual language teacher, dual language math and reading interventionist, dual language instructional coach, assistant principal, and principal in K–8 schools. Ana is currently the Senior Biliteracy and Multilingual Product Specialist at Amplify, and delivers literacy and biliteracy presentations across the nation. Ana’s passion and advocacy for biliteracy and support for all students from all walks of life has led her to educate leaders, teachers, and parents about the positive impact of bilingualism and biliteracy in our world.

A woman with long dark hair and hoop earrings smiles at the camera while wearing a black blazer, standing outdoors—ready to discuss classroom challenges or share insights on her teacher podcast.
A man with short, closely-cropped hair and a trimmed beard smiles at the camera against a light gray background, ready to inspire diverse learners in the math classroom.

Meet our Classroom Insider, Eric Cross.

Eric Cross is a middle school science teacher who hopes to someday be a lifelong educator, like the guests on Beyond My Years! In each episode, Eric connects with host Ana Torres to discuss her guests’ best insights, gleaned from their long and rewarding careers in the classroom. Then, Eric talks about bringing some of their wisdom into his current classroom and busy life.

Quotes

“You can't force someone to love something or to like something. But you can kind of talk them into not hating something.”

—Ian Brown

“I hate shaming children. I hate shaming anyone. I think shame is the most insidious thing in the world.”

—Ian Brown

“Math is just a description of the world around us. We live in the world; we can do it.”

—Ian Brown

“I don't attach any value to success or failure. I only attach value to hard work and kindness.”

—Ian Brown

“It's gonna be a grind. We're gonna be here for 180-some days. Well, let's have fun doing it.”

—Ian Brown

“You have to feel your feelings so you can think your thoughts.”

—Eric Cross

“The boring work is the real work.”

—Eric Cross

“You need both culture and rigor. If you have culture without rigor, then learning is hollow. If you have rigor without culture, that's what made students hate the subject.”

—Eric Cross